I am not sure how many of you saw my Tweet on the dust up between libertarian Todd Seavey and National Review editor Helen Rittelmeyer. The confrontation was during a conference related to Jonah Goldberg’s book Proud to be Right. The book is a collection of essays from young conservatives. Early in the proceedings Goldberg mentioned how debates on the right were always more interesting than those amongst the left. For once, Goldberg was correct.
The confrontation involved Seavey accusing Rittelmeyer of having a sadistic outlook that relished in suffering. That would fine had he not gone on to describe their “on again, off again” relationship.
In case Roissy does not cover this, my question is, Todd Seavey: Alpha or Beta? Actually the question might be better asked regarding Rittelmeyer, who, if Seavey is to be believed:
- “[played] matchmaker for one couple so she could seduce the man and hurt the woman”
- “probably dated some people in [the] room [during their two year relationship]”
- and that she wanted to repeal laws against assault “so that men get into more fistfights or at least live under the threat of constant fistfights.”
A callous Randroid (Rittelmeyer) versus a liberaltarian (Seavey); it was one of those battles where I find myself wishing that both sides could lose.
[Rittelmeyer even has a vaguely Ayn Rand look about her]
[less than carefully thought out commentary]
The rest of the discussion was more of the usual “hip conservatism” which involves destroying tradition and “getting God” out of the discussion. It was more of the same homo-economicus stuff that has turned people away for years. Like most Randian/Liberaltarian debate it treated humans as units of consumption and factors of production. These types are the first to claim that “liberals” are free-riding on the backs of the productive. What they fail to realize is they themselves are free-riding in the back of the traditions they disdain. If this is the next generation of conservatism we really are (thank you John Derbyshire) all doomed.
But back to the important questions: Seavey: Alpha or Beta. Which has the bigger nutsack Seavey or Rittelmeyer.
There was another woman (Ashley Thorne) present that seemed more attractive and pleasant. Perhaps if Seavey had been boning her, and not the evil Randian librarian, things might have worked out better.
Rittelmeyer: Perhaps she was the horrible cloning of Poetry of Flesh and Lady Raine.