Random Thoughts on: Gay Marriage

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This is another Random Thought in the Random Thoughts series of quickfire posts (more like comments than articles).


This post was spurred by a recent post at In Mala Fide discusses a the gay marriage debate.

Many of the arguments regarding gay marriage deal with it as a right. The argument goes that you cannot deny a right to one group that remains protected for another. However, marriage is a social institution not a right. The special recognition given to a union to two people is a privilege granted by the state. In the absence of such recognition tow people could still live as man and wife, they could still formalize that arrangement via a religious ceremony. No rights would be denied, only special recognition.

While most would prefer that the state should not prevent people from making the domestic arrangements they choose, it does not mean that the state has to grant a special privilege to any particular form. The refusal to acknowledge homosexual unions as “marriage” denies no rights. It merely denies a special privilege. Business licenses, driving licenses, etc. are all privileges that are granted and may by rescinded by the state. Now, I realize that many will argue against such “licensing,” but most people accept them.

Of course, the argument is not really about marriage, it is about normalizing the abnormal. It is about giving the gloss of ordinary over the flaking undercoat of perversion. Whether existing marriage institution serves any purpose may be open to debate, perhaps it will die slowly from lack of protection and lack of use.

The “Gay Pride” movement makes about as much sense as “Alcoholic Pride” movement. Both are aberrations that may or may not be genetic. In a healthy society, neither are particularly desirable. In neither case is the sufferer a slave to his condition, they do not have to partake of activities that will threaten their health. For some reason, we are told to celebrate one and treat the other.

Perhaps we should see the gay marriage movement not as a desire to change marriage but as a call for help. Perhaps we do not need new laws but a twelve-step program. Homosexual marriage, now that’s gay!

20 Responses to “Random Thoughts on: Gay Marriage”

  1. anplayer Says:

    Nice piece. I get fed up of the little white dress thing too.

    But isnt perversion a bit strong? after all, a lot of what goes on in a heterosexual relationship (even avec ki8ds)) isn’t necessarily what one would call normal.
    For instance, is there a difference between anall sex in a het relationship and anal in a homo relationship. Ditto for oral and manual. Neither are sex in the Catholic Church sense (unless foreplay only).

  2. anplayer Says:

    ps no homo me

  3. Default User Says:

    @anplayer

    But isnt perversion a bit strong?

    Well, I was being deliberately provocative, an antidote to the usual mincing steps people take around the issue.

    Also, I had not considered Catholic (or other religious) teaching on the matter. Perhaps you could call my objections aesthetic.

    PS
    I never doubted your heterosexuality.

  4. sdaedalus Says:

    Hi Default, nice to see such a rash of posts. You’ll be picking up from STD then so?

    The Player is definitely a woman’s man all right.

    Deliberately provocative, mincing and aesthetic are not words that one would normally associate with this blog (although i appreciate that there is a certain aesthetic beauty in economy of words) but somehow oddly appropriate to this particular post.

  5. Default User Says:

    You’ll be picking up from STD then so?

    Perhaps “STD” was an unfortunate abbreviation given the topic of the post.

    . . .and aesthetic are not words that one would normally associate with this blog

    I am sorry to hear that. I can probably go with the non-association of “provocative” and “mincing” but am disappointed that “aesthetic” is another word not associated with me or my writing. I thought that, at least, my graphs were pretty.

    In any case, this post was just another experiment with a different style. I will probably return to blander fare with my next post.

  6. sdaedalus Says:

    I stand corrected. See below. It specifically references graph(ic)s.

    I was thinking of aesthetic in the Oscar Wilde sense though.

    Definition of AESTHETIC
    1a : of, relating to, or dealing with aesthetics or the beautiful b : artistic c : pleasing in appearance : attractive
    2: appreciative of, responsive to, or zealous about the beautiful; also : responsive to or appreciative of what is pleasurable to the senses
    — aes·thet·i·cal·ly also es·thet·i·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb

  7. sdaedalus Says:

    If you put up a half-naked photo it’s possible that we might be able to re-evaluate your aesthetic merit. You did mention you were going to copy the styles of other bloggers.

  8. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus

    If you put up a half-naked photo it’s possible that we might be able to re-evaluate your aesthetic merit. You did mention you were going to copy the styles of other bloggers.

    I actually have considered that (In the Style of: Aoefe) but am making no promises.

    Perhaps you could lead the way and show me you think it should be done.

  9. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus
    Re: Aesthetic

    I suppose that means you perceive this blog (or me) to be too geeky, cerebral, or something. Maybe you are correct and this blog (or I) need a more aesthetic outlook. Suggestions?

  10. sdaedalus Says:

    Re half-naked photo suggestion, it’s hardly fair to suggest I get undressed first.

    You are after all the person who is writing in the style of other commenters, not me.

  11. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus

    You are after all the person who is writing in the style of other commenters, not me.

    I figured you would chicken out.

  12. sdaedalus Says:

    Chick(en) out. Just like a girl. You might have better luck getting a half-naked photo out of the Player. Like most Irishmen, the shirt comes off at the least hint of sunshine.

    I don’t actually have formal permission from the Player to moderate his site. However as he won’t take down the link to mine, and keeps talking about how we’re related, I’m damned if I’m going to have Firepower running free on his blog talking about anal sex & pregnant women in most ungentlemanlike terms.

    I go onto his blog occasionally to clean it up. I worked out his current password quite easily. It’s the name of his first female primary school teacher. The one with the very full figure.

  13. sdaedalus Says:

    No, the Player does not moderate my site. I am a damn sight more original in my password choices.

  14. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus

    However as he won’t take down the link to mine . . .

    With your super mod powers why don’t you just remove the link to your site.

    keeps talking about how we’re related

    That would not suprise me. I can see you as brother and sister.

  15. sdaedalus Says:

    Brother and sister? I would have thought that a knowledge of the anthill incident alone would have ruled out that possibility! We are not Flowers in the Attic, you know.

    Suffice to say that the Player and I are sufficiently distantly related to permit marriage, but sufficiently closely related to make it inadvisable without genetic testing.

    I keep removing the link and he keeps putting it up again.

  16. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus

    Brother and sister? I would have thought that a knowledge of the anthill incident alone would have ruled out that possibility!

    The anthill story would take on a creepy tone if you both of your really were siblings of Daedalus. Absent such a tale, it would be less shocking.

    PS
    Once again, you baffle me with a literary reference. I had to look it up.

  17. sdaedalus Says:

    Hardly a ‘literary’ reference, Default. Ayn Rand may just scrape in as literary, but VA Andrews is, as my mother would say, pure trash.

  18. Default User Says:

    @sdaedalus

    Hardly a ‘literary’ reference, Default. Ayn Rand may just scrape in as literary, but VA Andrews is, as my mother would say, pure trash.

    Yes ma’am.

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